Showing posts with label Loop. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Loop. Show all posts

2021-08-23

Flea Market in Frederikssund and Test equipment.

 This was the first larger arrangement I have attended since the corona closed down everything social, sort of.

I am still glad that this was an outdoor event.

It was good to meet some old and new friends. I had been talking to a local on the QO100 satellite, and finally we got to meet in person.

I did not bring too much back home, as the house is quite full of stuff. What I did get, was some good quality attenuators (10W/10GHz/10dB) and an older frequency counter capable of 1300MHz.

The counter has been under test a while, testing the reading of my 10MHz GPSDO. After close to 2 days (warming up the reference oscillator) it looks like the reference frequency oscillator is 2Hz off on 10MHz. Not too bad for HF/VHF, but insufficient for UHF and microwaves. The variation with temperature (there is a simple OCXO inside) seems to be less than 1Hz after warm-up, so stability is quite good.

Reference frequency alignment is in my future. 

The counter does have a 1MHz reference frequency input, so it will also be possible to lock the reference to a GPSDO for the best possible stability and accuracy.

2021-07-01

Home Antenna Considerations, Part 1.

 I am doing some considerations on a re-design of my antennas in and around the house. Right now I have a more or less functioning system, because during the pandemic I have not had the option of people coming to assist in antenna installations. 

The antenna system was due some maintenance the last 2 years, so now is probably the time to get started again.

This is my existing antenna system:

1) RX-ant:

- Active Mini-whip: 10kHz - 25MHz (needs some distribution/filter circuit(s))

- Indoor loop: 500kHz - 30MHz (lower than 500kHz w/amplification?)(needs distribution/filters)

- Loop on ground (30 - 160m, maybe MW/NDB bands w/ amplification?) (needs distribution/filters)


2) TRX-ant:

- R6000 (10 - 20m) (6m poor(RX only?)). In working order, but guy wires need to be replaced.

- Low 5B dipole (10-15-20-40-80m). Not very efficient due to the low height.

- V2000 (6/2m/70cm vertical). This is in working order.

- Corner vertical (mounted at the corner of the garden). This antenna has lost the top. I will have to check if the telescopic fiberglass mast has partly collapsed, or if it is broken. Originally this antenna worked in varying degrees on 160 - 30m, but it has certainly lost the 160m capability. Most definitely needs maintenance or re-design.

- Big Wheel, 2m (could possibly do 70cm) Omnidirectional, horizontal polarisation. This is generally in working order, but in rainy conditions it seems to deteriorate. Probably leaking, so needs maintenance.

- 10m 1/2 wave antenna. In working order.

- Low 2m/70cm vertical w/lossy cable. 


I am trying to make the antenna system as unobtrusive as possible, still with the functionality I want, so here are some requirements:


TRX Operation possible on following bands:
- preferably a possibility og making at least one QSO on 2200 and 630m. This may be tricky, but should be tested.
- 10 - 160m, reasonably well.
- 10m good (minimum as good as a vertical 1/2 wave).
- 4/6m needs to be improved (probably with Moxon, capable of running more power)
- 2m added gain, horizontal
- 70cm horizontal gain
- 23cm vertical and horizontal w/ some gain
- 13cm vertical and horizontal w/ some gain
- 9cm ???
- 6cm (maybe "14dB" patch array)
- 3cm 15/17dB horn or small (35cm?) dish
- probably some antennas should be capable of more than one band.

Diverse RX antennas: 
- Mini-Whip (2 pcs?). Will need distribution/filters
- Indoor WB loops for MW/HF. Will need distribution/filters
- Outdoor WB loop for MW/HF. Will need distribution/filters
- Outdoor loop for MF/LF(/VLF?). Will need distribution/filters
- Loop on ground antenna for MF/low HF bands. Will need distribution/filters
- other possible RX antennas may be considered, e.g. 4/6/10m RX antenna, 137/145/250MHz, 432MHz, 23/13/3cm monitor antennas.


I do have some ideas, but I think I will have to take yet another look at the garden and assess the possible solutions, so this is all for today.

2021-05-17

Week End Activity, P.3: Loop on Ground Receive Antenna Experiment.

 The loop antenna adventure continues.

This time I revised the Loop on Ground (LoG) setup.

Some time ago I tried out a LoG made with field telephone cable. This cable is mostly made of steel wires, but with a few strands of tinned copper wire, in a 4x5m configuration. Probably not the best material for antennas, and the results were disappointing, and the experiment was halted. Now it continues.

After cutting the grass (first time this year, so it took some effort) I found some thin wire to lay down. It may be replaced with weatherproof wire later, but I got to test the system, this time the wire is a bit longer, the configuration is about 5x8m, so the highest band expected to work properly is 30m. I use pegs to hold down the wire, the type used to hold wires for robotic lawn mowers.

The box with the transformer had to be repaired, too, one of the transformer wires had disconnected since I last made the experiment.

I am testing with the IC-7600. Here are the first test results:

Initially the noise level all over the bands was poor, but winding part of the cable a round a ferrite rod near the radio improved that. A better common mode choke is desirable. Now I need even more ferrite (toroids and other stuff) for reducing RFI all over the house.

MW/LW sounds quite noisy and with low S/N reception. Not as good as the small NCPL (w/amplifier at the radio), and certainly not as good as the Mini-Whip.

160m sounds OK-ish with no preamp, not spectacular

80m sounds good, signals weaker than on the low hanging dipole, but noise lower, too. Almost equal, but I suspect that the 

60m sounds good, not spectacular, looks like it is a bit noisier than the dipole (using Shannon Volmet and FT8 as test signals), but then again, the dipole is not resonant on 60m.

40m weaker than the dipole, but sounds quite good. Comparable S/N.

30m looks quite sensitive, no resonant antenna to compare with yet, but it sounds like a decent receive antenna

20m: Looks like S/N is worse than the R6000. No surprise, as the Loop on Ground is too large for 20m

I suspect that the best band for this antenna will be 80m. 40/60/160 are probably OK with a better set of common mode chokes at antenna and radio.

On all the bands the noise floor of the receiver increased when the antenna was connected, so the IC-7600 receiver is sufficiently sensitive on all the bands I intend to use it for. It should also prove a decent receive antenna for use from 1.6 - 12MHz. I think I shall keep it and probably replace the wire, then get it closer to the ground, maybe a few cm under ground level. With some weatherproofing this should prove an interesting low band receive antenna in the winter season.

2021-05-09

Amplified RX Loop Test and a Little Outdoor Antenna Work.

 This week end I have been active with antenna work.

Small Receiving Loop.

The first was a test using a low cost Chinese amplifier for the NCPL (loop).

The amplifier is actually "overkill", stated gain/bandwidth is 32dB/1-2000MHz. Not surprising, the gain is too high, both attenuators are in action on the FRG-100 receiver, and the base noise level (not interference), especially on 5-10MHz, is still very high.

Considering that the antenna is till tested indoors in the noise field I would expect things to improve when the antenna (properly weather proofed) is placed outdoors, but there is still one problem. The high gain causes intermodulation, maybe also cross modulation. I have not tested this, but in addition it is possible that the amplifier is oscillating in the UHF range. 

Which signals cause the intermod etc? I suspect it can be the MW broadcast band, but given the bandwith/gain of the amplifier it could be FM broadcast stations, too.

As I suspected this type of amplifier is simply unsuitable for such low frequencies, but I had to test it.

A simple 2 transistor with negative feedback is in my thoughts, along with a pre-selector. N1KPR has published a simple design that could be made on simple perf-board. 

Outdoor antennas.

The weather was pleasantly warm today, so a little outdoor antenna work was done. Since I do it all alone things may take a bit longer.

First outdoor thing was removing the lowered 6m half wave vertical antenna. There was a bit of rust, so the WD-40 was in action. This antenna was mounted on a satellite dish mount on the lawn, so this is now freed for other antennas. In addition, the cable was freed as well, and put to good use.

The 5 band dipole (10-15-20-40-80) had been connected together with the 4m vertical (now partly lowered) with a HF/VHF diplexer, which this was removed. The dipole is now connected to the old 6m antenna cable. Testing from indoors, the dipole/cable system seems capable of operating on 6m and 4m, so for the moment the dipole is used for 4m, because the 6m reception is quite noisy. The performance is expected to be quite poor on 4 and 6m, but until a better solution is available this will have to do.

The (partly taken down) 4m antenna is now connected to the old cable, running indoors, so a very limited 4m reception is possible, until another 4m(6/10/30m) antenna can be tested. At the moment only a transceiver capable of running a repeater is connected.

For now the 4m will be run on the IC-7300 with the dipole, and 6m on the IC-7600 with the V-2000 vertical.

It looks like the weather will be quite good tomorrow, too, so I may find time for more antenna work.

2021-05-06

My Home Made NCPL (YouLoop Clone).

 I made a prototype version of the NCPL (Noise Cancelling Passive Loop) receiving antenna.

This version is the same size as the YouLoop, but made with RG-58 cable, cross soldered (shield to inner and inner to shield at the top, then pushed through a hula hoop plastic tubing.

The ends of the tubing are inserted into a distribution box for electric wiring at the bottom. The shields are soldered together there, and the inner conductors are fed to a transformer made with 2x4 windings on a type 73 binocular ferrite core, one end connected to the shields and to the ground part of a SMA connector, the other end to the center of the coax connector. A better mechanical construction is needed, but a preliminary outdoor test can be made when the weather permits.

Testing:

Under test the home made loop behaved, essentially, as the commercial loop with respect to frequency response and signal strength. Not unexpected, and encouraging for the next experiment with NCPLs, another loop almost 2.5x the size of the original.

Due to the small size of the loop, signal strength on the lower bands is quite low. Experiments with amplification are in order.I suspect that the S/N can be improved significantly on MW/LW for this antenna, because many receivers/transceivers have low sensitivity below 1.6MHz, and the atmospheric noise is quite high on the low frequencies. I found a simple 2 transistor design presented by N1KPR, with 15-20 dB gain and a reasonable dynamic range, and I think this should be the first test with low frequency amplification, and probably be mounted outdoors near the position of the antenna. After this I can think of making an indoor distribution system with some band splitting, more amplification (pet band) and possibly a pre-selector system for the receivers. 

For the larger NCPL the intention is to use the thin Teflon coax cable (RG-316(?)) for inserting in the tubing, because the fitting holding the tubing parts together will probably not have enough space to fit the cross connected pieces of RG-58 inside. The thin RG-174 could probably be used, but the Teflon cable is more heat resistant when soldering, and more mechanically stable. Experiments with a different transformation ratio and some amplification should be made to see if the VLF band (down to about 10kHz) can be covered with sufficient sensitivity.

Because the system will be more usable in the winter half of the year, there is no great haste needed, but the bigger loop should definitely be made and tested. After that, I should focus on 2, 4, 6 and 10m. The Sporadic E season is right around the corner.

2021-04-29

The Small Loop RX Antenna Adventure Continues.

Slightly updated.

 This is another attempt to achieve a good receive antenna system for monitoring different frequencies in as many (ham) bands as possible.

Stage one was the experiment with the Mini-Whip described in recent posts.

The active Mini-Whip did provide some decent to good reception on frequencies ranging from 16kHz up to 18MHz.

Not bad for such a small antenna.

Now the experiments have started for a small passive wideband loop antenna. The main idea is not new (at least 60 years old), but there has been a resurgence of interest since SDRs with good sensitivity and with reception capability on VLF have started becoming available at reasonable prices.

Looking at the "YouLoop" antenna made for use with the Air-Spy SDR I decided to look into this. 

This is in essence a "Moebius Loop" type antenna, a design invented in the 1960s, as far as I know. A version is available at the well known auction site, so I took the lazy way and purchased one, just to see what all the fuss was about.

This is the initial result of a quick comparison of the Mini-Whip and the YouLoop:

First I want to point out that the YouLoop as purchased is not suitable for outdoor use - no waterproofing.

This means that the Mini-Whip is mounted outdoors in one of the least noisy places I could find in my garden, furthest from houses, mine or neighbours' houses, and the YouLoop was hung inside the house, in the noise field.

Because the Mini-Whip is active the signal level is much higher than from the small loop. However, whereas some signals were audible with the active Mini-Whip and too weak to be heard on the loop, others were swamped in noise on the Mini-Whip and weaker, but clear with the loop. 

I am aware that the loop might benefit from a sensitive preamplifier, especially on low frequencies and with low sensitivity receivers. This I need to test.

Signals on the loop were a bit weak and noisy on medium wave, and somewhat comparable in S/N to the Mini-Whip on 1.8 to 10MHz. Above this the loop did not increase the receiver's noise when connected, indicating either insufficient sensitivity of the receiver (possible) or simply a too low output of the loop. MW was full of rather strong signals with the Mini-Whip, and considerable weaker (and more noisy) signals came from the loop.

I suspect that a low noise preamplifier at the loop will improve this, especially if a long cable is used. Oh, darn! more projects ;)

Having seen the results I decided to make my own (weather proofed) version of the loop. I already had some hula-hoops (yes the children's toy ones) stored and found a few of them. The first test will be a loop of similar size to the original "YouLoop" (My YouLoop clone). Using two lengths of RG-58 soldered together crossing the shield and inner conductor at the top of the loop, feeding the inner conductors at the bottom to a 1:1 transformer (type 73 binocular ferrite core), and connecting the shields together at the bottom. Here is a description already made, so I will not repeat everything. I will report back when the test has been done

I will have to check whether or not a connection of the feed cable shield to the common shield is beneficial wrt noise performance. I suspect it will be.

I have two more (larger) hula-hoops, so I intend to test a larger (2.5x or so) version of the loop for getting higher signal strength.

The loop antennas do have another advantage over the Mini-Whip: They are directional and have a null, making it possible to reduce interference/noise by turning the loop. For now I intend to use both the Mini-Whip and loop antenna, and switch between them to get the best possible S/N on a given signal.

Using separate receive antennas is beginning to take shape, and with the addition of a distribution system,  preselector/filters/amplifiers a decent propagation monitoring system, such as FT8/WSPR and/or beacon/QRSS monitoring.

2019-01-07

Short Wave (Active) Hula Hoop Antenna.

The radio construction activities have been halted in the Christmas/New Year period, other activities have taken over. This week the ham radio activities are slowly beginning again.

The 1MHz - 2GHz 32dB gain Chinese LNA has arrived. Still waiting for LNAs for 10/100kHz - 2GHz, so the first loop tested will be for short wave.

Tried the electric connector box for the single turn loop RX antenna.
The hula hoop fits perfectly into the opening poked put of the box. Looks good.
Next step : Test transformer and 1M - 2G 32dB gain LNA.

Copper tape on small loop, with smaller box, and 1.5sqmm wire through the loop was tested. Not much space for transformer and amp in the box. Amp should just fit inside the box with connector, but not with connected connectors.
Using the copper tape for shielding is tricky to wind around the hula hoop, it gets uneven, and has to be done in short pieces with the simple "snail repellant" tape I am using.

I have an even smaller box. The smallest box only holds the 1M-2G amp if the SMA connectors are removed. This box should probably only be used with a soft wire/coax - (wire unshielded). Could probably be good with a loop circumference of 7.5 - 9m, usable up to about 10MHz.

2018-12-11

LW/MW Loop Renewed.

The wires were stuck in the 10/20 turns loop, so new hoops were cut.
The first one is a bit larger than the original one, and was wound with 5 turns. Resonant frequency got up to 2,1MHz, a little low for comfortably using it on the 160m band, so one turn was removed.
The 4 turn loop has self resonance on close to 2.5MHz, so I consider it acceptable for use on the 1.8MHz band.
It looks like an amplifier is needed to get better sensitivity.
The second hoop is intended for a single turn HF wideband loop, tests with transformer and  amplifier should be done this year, as I have a cheap LNA, officially with a low cut off of 5MHz, but I suspect it will work fine on the 80m amateur band, too. A later version will probably be tested with a 1MHz cut off LNA, which is on the way from China.
The 10/20 turn loop will probably be tried out with even lower frequency reception (<100kHz).

2018-12-10

LW/MW Loop : Self Resonance Measurements

20181209 :
I added an improvised electrostatic shield on the multiturn loop. Simply some kitchen aluminium foil wrapped around the loop (yes, with the proper gap) and connected to the coax shield with a test cord with alligator clips.

This is a simple test, and shows a considerable improvement of noise performance for the loop, both on the LW, and also on the MW band.
NDBs (navigation beacons) started showing up in the 250 - 500kHz band, some noise disappeared from long wave broadcast stations, and the noise level on MW is considerably lower, even with the antenna still indoors. I expect the noise level to reduce further when the loop is placed outdoors, 10 - 20m from all noisy houses.

A new MW evening propagation test is planned for tonight.

A mechanically improved shield will be made. I have some copper tape, sold as snail repellant, that will be wound around the loop and connected to the coax shield.

The loop design is now beginning to take shape, and when a cheap LNA capable on low frequencies arrives in some weeks. I will test this and, if necessary, build it into the connection box of the loop, along with a bias-tee arrangement.

20181210 :
The MiniVNA Pro2 arrived this morning, and some measurements of the loop were made. Initially I could not get the Bluetooth system to work, so I used the USB port, and got it working.
With 10 turns the self resonant frequency of the loop turned out to be around 900kHz, somewhat consistent with the performance I have seen.
The test with 20 turns lowered the self resonance to about 300kHz, I estimate that to be due to a combination of the 4-fold inductance and a considerably increased stray capacitance between windings. This is also consistent with the performance I experienced when initially testing with 10 and 20 turns.

The electrostatic shield made very little difference to the self resonance, so it will be re-instated in the final version of the loop.

Next experiment : Reduce the number of turns of the loop to 5 or 6, and see how much the self resonance increases.


2018-12-07

MW/LW Loop - transformed

I went to pick up RF transformers today. When inserted both noise and signals are attenuated, but it looks like the S/N is somewhat better.
The antenna was still located in the noise field of the shack, so I am not too surprised. 
Time to connect a longer cable (still indoors) to test the loop a bit away from the shack with all its computers and SMPSs.
The weaker signals may be due to a different impedance match of the receiver through the transformer to the loop.

Moving the loop further away from the shack noise, about 3 - 5m, offers a considerable reduction of the noise level on LW. The RTTY station on 138kHz is now essentially noise free, i.e. I estimate it could easily be demodulated Signal is about S6, and noise is down to about S1. Another RTTY signal on around 133kHz is now clearly audible, and one on about 147kHz - previously drowning in the noise - is now quite strong. That was not the case with the loop closer to the shack noise.
MW is not so much better in that respect, so maybe too many turns still create too much stray capacitance. MW is better, but a considerable noise level still exists on large parts of the band, mostly a harsh hum with many overtones, probably from SMPSs.
Is it possible that I should use fewer turns to optimize the performance on MW? One more thing must be tested before testing the loop outside, and about 12-17m from the noisy shack - and 10 - 20m away from other potentially noisy houses.
Enough experimentation for now. More in the week end. Electrostatic shielding should be tested to see if the S/N can be further improved.

2018-12-06

Adventures in Wideband Receive Antennas for LF and MF, Part 1.

After seeing posts on Youtube about people making simple wideband LF/MF/SW antennas I decided to go make my own. This is just the beginning, and a first test.
Two videos are the origin of my design, which is still under development.
One describes a simple single wire loop of about 3m circumference, connected to a cheap Chinese LNA, covering 1-2000MHz (price about $10). Sort of overkill in relation to the frequency range, but it is a very simple circuit to make, even with some not too tricky mechanical work.
The second video describes the use of a hula hoop to support the antenna. The loop described here has several turns of single strand wire pushed through the hoop, and is supposed to work up to about 10 - 12MHz.
I decided to make at least two loop antennas, one covering LF and MF, and another covering the HF bands. This is the beginning of the experimental LF/MF loop antenna.
I have purchased some cheap hula hoops on the toy store, priced less than $10.
I already had some cheap old fashioned speaker wire, so how to get several windings of that into the hoop ?
First step is cutting the hoop, so you have free ends of the plastic tube available. The hoop is quite tense, so the moment it is cut, it expands the radius, and you end up with a half circle of tubing. That is actually not too bad when you start pushing wire into the hoop. the speaker wire went nicely through to the other end of the tube.
Next step is a bit more tricky, but with a bit of thinking it was not difficult, but it was some work. I bent the tube with the wire through it, so the ends almost met, distance about 3cm, then used duct tape (surprise ! ;) ) to hold the ends together, then taped the end of the wire to the piece going through the hoop.
Now comes some hard finger work : Pushing/pukking the wire through the hoop, about 2cm at a time. After about half an hour or so I had 10 windings of 2-wire speaker cord.
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If connected correctly in series this amounts to 20 turns of wire, but at first the test was done on 225kHz with 10 turns connected to a piece of RG58 cabe and my FRG-100 receiver - (in the mid-afternoon, so not many MW stations audible)
The signal was a steady S9+5 on the meter, so it was time to try connecting the windings in series, creating the 20 turn loop.
The 20 turns showed a weaker signal. Time to think a bit. I will assume that the problem with the 20 turns is a higher stray capacitance between the wires, lowering the self resonance of the loop.
Back to 10 turns it was, and voila ! The signal was back up again.
Do you see a weak point with this construction - not mechanically, but electrically ?
The multiturn loop is connected directly to the cable, creating (at least) two problems :
- the loop is originally balanced, the cable connection with a coax cable creates an imbalance, making the loop more sensitive to noise.
- the direct connection further has a galvanic connection to other wiring, giving the noise more opportunities to enter the loop.
Those two problems can be solved by inserting a RF transformer between the loop and the cable. The balance problem may not be completely eliminated, but, at least, it will be reduced. A local ham has offered me a 1:1 transformer that should be capable of handling the bands the antenna is meant for. Nice for initial testing.
I do have some low frequency toroids cores that I will test when I have the proper instrumentation. I suspect that it may be a good idea to use some up-transformation of the impedance/voltage from the loop.
I would like to be able to use this antenna for 136kHz, 472kHz and 1.8Mhz, and, of course for the MW broadcast band. It is possible, however, that I may have to insert some filtering in order to avoud overload of the receiver by strong MW signals. This will be tested, and added if necessary.
Here is a question that some may ask : Why make this solution when a properly constructed tuned frame multi turn antenna is better (no doubt it will, technically) ?
Well, The first point is simplicity of construction. I find it hard to imagine a more simple construction of a LF/MF antenna. Simply, do not make things more complex than necessary.
Second, I wanted an antenna capable of being used for more than one frequency, simultaneously.
Third, I wanted to go through the process of improving the system as the design allows.
In the near future there are, at least, the following improvements :
- adding the transformer, and possibly using an up transformer.
- test the possible improvement with an electrostatic shield.
- test if an amplifier is necessary in order to improve the S/N ratio.
- test if filters are necessary, because I will use this antenna in an environment with transmitters on higher frequencies than the design of this antenna, and the possibility of needing a filter eliminating strong MW broadcast transmitters.
- building the mechanical construction supporting the base and feed point of the antenna

Until now the testing of the antenna has been inside the shack, which is a very noisy environment with computers, switching mode power supplies, mains noise etc, so some preliminary tests of the open construction outdoors may be necessary, especially to determine the need for an amplifier.

I look forward to do some more testing and finish the project, so expect a few more posts about this, and then phase II : HF active loop antenna.

I went to pick up RF transformers today. When inserted both noise and signals are attenuated, but it looks like the S/N is somewhat better.
The antenna is still located in the noise field of the shack, so I am not too surprised. 
Time to connect a longer cable (still indoors) to test the loop a bit away from the shack with all its computers and SMPSs.
The weaker signals may be due to a different impedance match of the receiver through the transformer to the loop.
Moving the loop further away from the shack noise, about 3 - 5m, offers a considerable reduction of the noise level on LW. The RTTY station on 138kHz is now essentially noise free, i.e. I estimate it could easily be demodulated Signal is about S6, and noise is down to about S1. Another RTTY signal on around 133kHz is now clearly audible. That was not the case with the loop closer to the shack noise.
MW is not so much better in that respect, so maybe too many turns still create too much stray capacitance. MW is better, but a considerable noise level still exists on large parts of the band, mostly a harsh hum with many overtones, probably from SMPSs.
Is it possible that I should use fewer turns to optimize the performance on MW? One more thing must be tested before testing the loop outside, and about 12-17m from the noisy shack.
Enough experimentation for now. More in the week end. Electrostatic shielding should be tested to see if the S/N can be further improved.